Goodbye to Ted Kennedy

Post by **Mikey** » Wed May 21, 2008 3:38 am

I certainly understand your POV, Tsu - all I'm saying is that nothing good comes of one appointing himself jusge, jury, and executioner.

sunnyside · Post by **sunnyside** » Wed May 21, 2008 4:47 am

Well, almost nothing.......

Also looking at that again there might have been some cause to suspect foul play. Could have used more investigation. Though in the end it could just be him being a stupid youthful Kennedy.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Wed May 21, 2008 5:59 am

Mikey, I agree completely, except in cases where the law has clearly failed entirely, as in this one.

Sunny, I think the whole thing reeks of coverup, and I agree that with the facts at hand, the punishment certainly should've been more than suspension of his driver's licence. I can't believe that he's actually been re-elected so many times.

Duskofdead · Post by **Duskofdead** » Wed May 21, 2008 7:05 am

I could be speaking out of turn but I think the hesitance you're detecting is that out of an alphabetical, chronological, and descending order of seriousness list of politicians who have sordid histories, you could pick much more awful ones out of the crowd, and ones who haven't spent the last several decades at least attempting to do positive work for the country to make up for awful things they did in their youth. Hell, Senator Bird was in the Ku Klux Klan 60 years ago as a young fellow.

Personally, I'm much more worried that someone with a background in Iran-Contra is at all involved in the strategic planning in Iraq, or that someone with an alcohol and cocaine problem has his finger on the button, for instance. :O

Post by **Mikey** » Wed May 21, 2008 12:17 pm

That's true, although I believe Tsu's outrage stems from this on a completely non-professional level. Tsu - the only problem is that when we decide when it's OK to say that the law has failed and it's up to us - it's too late, because we have already made that leap.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Wed May 21, 2008 12:26 pm

I'd sure sleep easier knowing that the law worked properly at least 95% of the time.

I'm sorry, guys, I've been going through some serious personal issues lately, and my frustration tends to come out at the strangest times. This was probably one of those situations; I tend to over-personalize things because people I care about are in bad, dangerous situations, and the thought is never far from my mind.

I really am not an angry person by nature; I just keep being confronted with things that I can not abide, which makes me angry.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Wed May 21, 2008 4:57 pm

Never heard of him. Shouold I particularly care?

Duskofdead · Post by **Duskofdead** » Wed May 21, 2008 5:28 pm

Rochey wrote:Never heard of him. Shouold I particularly care?

As a general statement Rochey we here in America LOVE to watch, in detail, the unglorious downfalls of our politicians and celebrities.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:00 pm

So....no real reason to care then?

Duskofdead · Post by **Duskofdead** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:06 pm

No not really.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:23 pm

Oh, okay then,

*goes off to do other things*

Post by **Mikey** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:39 pm

Well, two reasons why it's as big news as it is:

#1 - He is a long-standing, vocal, and prolific senator.

#2 - He is a Kennedy (no relation

.) This country's fascination with the closest thing it has to a royal family is long-standing and deep-rooted, no matter that there is no real reason - or that the family's fortunes started when Joe Kennedy started smuggling hooch during prohibition.

Post by **Teaos** » Thu May 22, 2008 1:01 am

A booze runner? No wonder people love them.

Duskofdead · Post by **Duskofdead** » Thu May 22, 2008 1:52 am

Teaos wrote:A booze runner? No wonder people love them.

During Prohibition, yes. Any big well established political family has a dirty money history like that.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Thu May 22, 2008 2:00 am

Duskofdead wrote:...Any big well established political family has a dirty money history like that.

Look at either the Clinton or Bush family for examples of that.