Formula 1

[mlsnoopy]

Not that you're counting or anything.

If you get up at 3 o'clock to watch a race, then blive me that you can find a timer for the next race.

No more 6 minutes of racing followed by a three minute advert break

Hate that.

Well, I'd immagine there's a lot less contact and comptition with such a small field

The problem is that the bigest bugets are araund 400 milion dolars and the lowest araund 80 million dolars. So that also gives you a big performence gap.


It looks like there will be rain, without TC there will be alot of crashes.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

It looks like there will be rain, without TC there will be alot of crashes.

You race in the rain with racing tires at 200 MPH? You must be crazy.

[Sionnach Glic]

If you get up at 3 o'clock to watch a race, then blive me that you can find a timer for the next race.

You do realise there's a button on your DVD player that says "Record", right?

[mlsnoopy]

You do realise there's a button on your DVD player that says "Record", right?

If it is not live it is not interesting, if I miss a race as soon as possible I go and check the result. And once you know the result it is no longer interesting.

You race in the rain with racing tires at 200 MPH? You must be crazy.

Why the cars are designe to go in rain or shine. Of corse when you get flying cars a SC comes out but only for a few laps and then fun continues.

2d 10h 9 min

[Mikey]

It looks like there will be rain, without TC there will be alot of crashes.

You race in the rain with racing tires at 200 MPH? You must be crazy.

They don't all run on stock-car slicks.

[sunnyside]

I'll watch F1 highlights but I could never watch a whole race.

I find I like racing more, actually, as it gets more on the local level. A race at a local fair will have a lot more "action" than NASCAR or F1 as the participants don't have to worry about keeping their cars from touching, the races are shorter (like 20 laps) and thewider range of driver skill level means that in those 20 laps a few cars are probably going to wipe out or get smacked.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

I'll watch F1 highlights but I could never watch a whole race.

I find I like racing more, actually, as it gets more on the local level. A race at a local fair will have a lot more "action" than NASCAR or F1 as the participants don't have to worry about keeping their cars from touching, the races are shorter (like 20 laps) and thewider range of driver skill level means that in those 20 laps a few cars are probably going to wipe out or get smacked.

NASCARS don't worry about bumping. A hard hit in the right spot might set off an accident and yellow flag, but when they're tied up in a pack they bump each other alot. NASCARS aren't as fragile as those toys they play with in F1 series. If the car can move faster then minimum speed and doesn't present a danger to the drivers then they'll almost always stay on the track to get more points.

NASCAR is a real sport with real cars with real men. It's a full contact sport with drivers trying to control these beasts at 200 MPH in temperatures of over 100 degrees while trying to beat 42 other guys.

Sorry about going off on a tangent.

[mlsnoopy]

NASCARS don't worry about bumping. A hard hit in the right spot might set off an accident and yellow flag, but when they're tied up in a pack they bump each other alot.

That is becuse they run in circles, on a real race track if you would bump someone you would lose a few places.

NASCARS aren't as fragile as those toys they play with in F1 series

Nascars can't go through corners at 200km/h.

It's a full contact sport with drivers trying to control these beasts at 200 MPH in temperatures of over 100 degrees while trying to beat 42 other guys.

And driving in circles. in a straight line an f1 car can go at 400km/h



Today was the training Mclaren and Ferrari on top. Looking foward to qualifying.

[Captain Seafort]

NASCARS don't worry about bumping. A hard hit in the right spot might set off an accident and yellow flag, but when they're tied up in a pack they bump each other alot. NASCARS aren't as fragile as those toys they play with in F1 series. If the car can move faster then minimum speed and doesn't present a danger to the drivers then they'll almost always stay on the track to get more points.

NASCAR is a real sport with real cars with real men. It's a full contact sport with drivers trying to control these beasts at 200 MPH in temperatures of over 100 degrees while trying to beat 42 other guys.

Sorry about going off on a tangent.

Any idiot can drive into things - it's racing, and overtaking, without shunting the opposition that requires skill.

[Mikey]

Here's where all auto racing gets lumped together AFAIAC:

NASCAR is a real sport with real cars with real men. It's a full contact sport with drivers trying to control these beasts at 200 MPH in temperatures of over 100 degrees while trying to beat 42 other guys.

It's not a full contact sport if you perform it surrounded by 2800+ lbs. of sheet metal. A "full contact" sport means one person's BODY hitting another. In fact, it's not a sport at all. Driving a race car of any type admittedly requires phenomenal reflexes, trained instincts, and a mind geared toward the strategy of one's particular racing format; but a sport it ain't.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

NASCARS don't worry about bumping. A hard hit in the right spot might set off an accident and yellow flag, but when they're tied up in a pack they bump each other alot.

That is becuse they run in circles, on a real race track if you would bump someone you would lose a few places.

Well, that's a given.

NASCARS aren't as fragile as those toys they play with in F1 series

Nascars can't go through corners at 200km/h.

That translates to 125 MPH right? That is so slow it's pathetic. The slowest race speed I've seen(other then those really dull road tracks) is about 135.

It's a full contact sport with drivers trying to control these beasts at 200 MPH in temperatures of over 100 degrees while trying to beat 42 other guys.

And driving in circles. in a straight line an f1 car can go at 400km/h

about 250 MPH right? Big deal, on road coarses they'll never get that fast, not for a good distance. NASCAR has tracks where the cars maintain 200MPH for the entire track, where they go so fast they need to put restrictor plates on them to keep them under control.

Any idiot can drive into things - it's racing, and overtaking, without shunting the opposition that requires skill

Okay, when you say overtaking are we talking, one car passing another? Any idiot can do that. I do it all the time on the highway. It's a given in racing, like passing the ball in soccer or football. At least I thought it was. And precision driving with these machines is much more difficult then those toys in the F1 series.

Driving a race car of any type admittedly requires phenomenal reflexes, trained instincts, and a mind geared toward the strategy of one's particular racing format; but a sport it ain't.

It's a motorsport, it's called a sport, it's the second most popular sport in the USA(Football is the most popular). And if all that stuff doesn't qualify it as a sport then what the heck do you consider a sport?

It's not a full contact sport if you perform it surrounded by 2800+ lbs. of sheet metal

What does it take to make a full contact sport? One of your best drivers dying in what is would otherwise be considered a minor accident? Oh, wait we've done that. Having drivers have to be checked out after a decent sized accident? Oh, wait we've done that. Start the car on fire? Oh, wait we've done that!

And let me tell you, there is nothing more exciting in sports then when a race goes into Overdrive

[Captain Seafort]

Okay, when you say overtaking are we talking, one car passing another? Any idiot can do that. I do it all the time on the highway. It's a given in racing, like passing the ball in soccer or football. At least I thought it was. And precision driving with these machines is much more difficult then those toys in the F1 series.

When you're overtaking on a road, the other bloke isn't trying to block you, nor does your car suffer a serious drop in performance due to the turbulent air coming off the back of the one in front.

It's a motorsport, it's called a sport, it's the second most popular sport in the USA(Football is the most popular). And if all that stuff doesn't qualify it as a sport then what the heck do you consider a sport?

I agree with you mostly here, other than the fact that football is by no means the popular sport in the US - it's hardly even played.

What does it take to make a full contact sport?

Read what Mikey said:

A "full contact" sport means one person's BODY hitting another.

One of your best drivers dying in what is would otherwise be considered a minor accident? Oh, wait we've done that.

I remember that - some idiot without enough of a brain to realise that not using the best safety technology available is stupid.

Having drivers have to be checked out after a decent sized accident? Oh, wait we've done that.

That applies to any accident - including any significant shunt on public roads.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

nor does your car suffer a serious drop in performance due to the turbulent air coming off the back of the one in front.

um...I thought performance increased. You know, because of drafting? It increases fuel efficiency, and means you have more power to slingshot around the guy in front of you.

I agree with you mostly here, other than the fact that football is by no means the popular sport in the US - it's hardly even played

Yes it is. That's why companies spend so much money to put their commercials on during the Superbowl.

A "full contact" sport means one person's BODY hitting another

Two car bodies contacting each other? They're all owned by a person. So that would make them a persons body I found a loophole in that definition.

I remember that - some idiot without enough of a brain to realise that not using the best safety technology available is stupid.

I hope you aren't referring to the guy I am. Number 3 car? Dale Earnhardt? He was one of the best drivers on the track. And additional safety technology weighs the car down, so by using them you go slower. Winning is the whole point of racing. If it's not required by NASCAR regulations there's a very good chance you won't find it in the car.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

nor does your car suffer a serious drop in performance due to the turbulent air coming off the back of the one in front.

um...I thought performance increased. You know, because of drafting? It increases fuel efficiency, and means you have more power to slingshot around the guy in front of you.

I agree with you mostly here, other than the fact that football is by no means the popular sport in the US - it's hardly even played

Yes it is. That's why companies spend so much money to put their commercials on during the Superbowl.

A "full contact" sport means one person's BODY hitting another

Two car bodies contacting each other? They're all owned by a person. So that would make them a persons body I found a loophole in that definition.

I remember that - some idiot without enough of a brain to realise that not using the best safety technology available is stupid.

I hope you aren't referring to the guy I am. Number 3 car? Dale Earnhardt? He was one of the best drivers on the track and with more tricks up his sleeve then you'll ever know. And additional safety technology weighs the car down, so by using them you go slower. Winning is the whole point of racing. If it's not required by NASCAR regulations there's a very good chance you won't find it in the car. It's usually the same in every other type of racing I know of.

[Tsukiyumi]

...I hope you aren't referring to the guy I am. Number 3 car? Dale Earnhardt? He was one of the best drivers on the track and with more tricks up his sleeve then you'll ever know...

Yeah, that's for sure. My dad and I used to watch NASCAR when I was a kid, and that dude (at least during the eighties) used to purposely fishtail other drivers, smash them into walls, and otherwise cheated his way to the top. My dad hated him with a passion. I inherited my sense of ethics from both of my parents in this way; we despise cheaters.

Ironically, Dale Earnhart died on my dad's birthday. I found it to be amusing, along with the fact that someone fishtailed him into a wall in that crash...