Machine gun and Torch in one handy package.

sunnyside · Post by **sunnyside** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:00 pm

Deepcrush wrote:Right, we just dont' have that problem over here in the states. We already breed at an ungodly rate.

Actually our birth rate is only 2.09 per woman. That means we're probably going to start seeing a reduction in population in a while.

And outside of the poorer populations the birth rate gets increasinly abysmal. Though rampant adoption from other countries counters this somewhat.

Post by **Mikey** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:07 pm

The reduction in population you predict will actually not be as steep as one would think - actuarial tables are now routinely set up to 105 years of age, and our population is aging rather than shrinking to a certain extent.

sunnyside · Post by **sunnyside** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:49 am

Mikey wrote:The reduction in population you predict will actually not be as steep as one would think - actuarial tables are now routinely set up to 105 years of age, and our population is aging rather than shrinking to a certain extent.

Hence the "in a while"

Although with American obesity rates and other health factors it might be faster than we think.

MetalHead · Post by **MetalHead** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:00 am

I say the video on youtube, watched most of that gunshow. The FMG-9 is nuts. Bit too big to be a pocket job (unless u have cargo pockets like me) but would be great for having in your car. Next time grandfather slow cuts me up because he's looking for his pension books *blamblamblam* no more tyres for YOU!

Post by **Mikey** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:55 am

MetalHead wrote:I say the video on youtube, watched most of that gunshow. The FMG-9 is nuts. Bit too big to be a pocket job (unless u have cargo pockets like me) but would be great for having in your car. Next time grandfather slow cuts me up because he's looking for his pension books *blamblamblam* no more tyres for YOU!

And people say that Americans are the ones with road-rage issues...

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:41 pm

Technically, MetalHead is still an american, he just lives in England.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:44 pm

Whew, Europe's reputation is safe again.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:00 pm

Yeah, now you're just back to being that continent that America occasionally has to go save.

Post by **Mikey** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:36 pm

Tsukiyumi wrote:Yeah, now you're just back to being that continent that America occasionally has to go save.

Oh, crap. Seafort - he didn't mean it... really!

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:37 pm

Yeah, now you're just back to being that continent that America occasionally has to go save.

Yeah......I'm gonna run now before Seafort gets here.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:47 pm

Tsukiyumi wrote:Yeah, now you're just back to being that continent that America occasionally has to go save.

Pfft. This from the country that is best know for turning up late to every war it's fought. Including the Revolution and your Civil War.

The fact of the World Wars was that the European allies decided that since you'd decided to show up late we'd stand back and let you play a leading role in the remainder so you didn't feel left out.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:51 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:...This from the country that is best know for turning up late to every war it's fought.

Better late than never. Kind of like the Millenium Falcon showing up at the last second. If we hadn't shown up when we did, all of us would be speaking German.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:58 pm

Tsukiyumi wrote:Better late than never. Kind of like the Millenium Falcon showing up at the last second. If we hadn't shown up when we did, all of us would be speaking German.

Why? It took a two and a half year sustained build up to get enough dedicated landing craft to cross the Channel, with a far larger industrial base, and one huge cock-up to demonstrate how not to do it. The Germans planned to invade by towing river barges across, then doing shuttle runs to resupply. If Germans had dropped lucky some shooting might have been needed to defeat the landing, but it's more likely that a mild swell would hve sunk the entire invasion.

Post by **Mikey** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:04 am

Because the UK had everything well in hand without us, right?

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:05 am

Actualy, we'd be more likely to have been turned into another part of the USSR than end up speaking German (though it's an unlikely outcome).
Hitler was screwed the moment Operation Barbarosa went into action. An actual invasion of Britain was virtualy impossible at that time, so a large proportion of troops would have been tied up defending the Atlantic Wall even if Britain had never launched a counter attack. The Soviets would then have rolled all the way to Berlin, though likely with massive casualties.