New RPG discussion.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:14 pm

Yes, the S'tei is basically a generic shuttle with the added advantaged of a twin torpedo mount...

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:24 pm

I'd say that would be a nasty surprise to any attacker.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:39 pm

If they managed to find it

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:55 pm

Good point.

On another note, have we got a name for our ship yet?

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:15 pm

I dont think so...

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:17 pm

Right, dimensions for my ship, the Diaga CÃºiteamh. The ship is actualy a gunship that has been 'acquired' from the military (it's not stealing, it's salvaging) so packs a considerable punch for it's size, though isn't that great when it comes to speed.
Length: 26M
Height: 10M
Wingspan: 24M

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:18 pm

What military is it and what kinda armament (very important item).

Jordanis · Post by **Jordanis** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:00 pm

Oh god, all your auxiliary craft are huge! You know those cargo bays are only 30 meters long apiece...

As a question of a fore-aft shuttlebay, I'm not sure it wouldn't need to be prohibitively big to handle these small craft. The particular thing is that the bay needs to be large enough to allow those ships to be two abreast, or else you're in trouble if the ship in front breaks down and you want one behind.

You need handling space, too. Small craft bay design is something I've put too much thought into, in fact, as my own pocket universe features a carrier/fighter based space navy.

From where the design is at now, I think the best thing would be to use the space above the cargo bays as a shuttlebay that opens above. Given the origins of the design, the shuttlebay ought to be connected to the cargo area somehow. Anyway, that's only a volume of 36x60x8 meters, and already accounts for like 1/3 of the non-cargo volume of the ship. You guys have all got some dang huge small craft.

Also, it looks like the nacelles might end up a little different, because I had a @$&$^ crash and it decided that even though it's supposed to save before rendering, it reverted to before I did the nacelles.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:09 pm

Reliant wrote:What military is it and what kinda armament (very important item).

Eh, I'll just do a summary of the ship with full stats.
The military it was acquired from was the Laithan Stellar Navy.

Class: Seabhac class
Type: Military gunship / transport
Dimensions:
Length: 26M
Height: 10M
Wingspan: 24M
Decks: 2
Crew: Normal crew of 6 (4 gunners, pilot, co-pilot), minimum crew of 1. Can carry up to 30 troops.
Armament: 4 twin barreled turreted assault cannons (2 on the forward fuselage, 1 on each wingtip), 2 beam cannons (1 on either side of and just below the cockpit, fixed in position and can only hit targets directly in front of the ship), 16 heavy duty fussion missiles (8 underslung on each wing).
Defence Systems: Standard shield system, 5.5 cm thick armour plating.
Warp Speed:
Normal cruise: 5
Maximum cruise: 6.2
Maximum rated: 6.9 for unknown amount of time (test ship destroyed, no further tests carried out)

The Seabhac class gunship was originaly designed for use by the Laithan Army Airial Cavalry as a rapid moving ship designed to get from an orbiting ship to a planetary surface as quickly as possible. It's armament allowed it to clear landing zones of hostiles before dropping off it's cargo of troops and commencing strafing runs on targets of opertunity with it's missiles.
The design came to the attention of the Laithan Stellar Navy, who quickly put them to use in a gunship/boarding craft role. The ship's design allowed it to fulfill these roles with ease, and the ship proved to be capable of extended patrol missions. The Seabhac became popular among pilots, soldiers, and naval officers alike for it's durability and considerable armament, and has become the most common troopship used by the Laithan military.
Capable of carrying two squads of troops safely into battle and then providing fire support, or capable of acting as a gunship in a dogfight or as a boarding craft against enemy ships, they can be found virtualy everywhere the Latihan Imperium has a military presence.
Like most Laithan ships, the vessel appears superficialy crude, hiding a suprising amount of punch and causing most hostiles to underestimate these vessels upon their first encounter with them.
The ship has two decks. The lower deck is divided into two parts; the forward hold, and the main hold.
The forward hold contains the main egress hatch; a ramp that lowers quickly, two of the assault cannon turrets are located on either side and just behind this and are capable of laying down covering fire for disembarking troops.
The main hold is seperated from the forward hold by a metal hatch, and is about twice as large. This hold contains rows of seats for troops to strap themselves into while the ship is in transit. There are two small hatches on either side of the main hold to assist in troop deployment, just forward of the wings. There is a weapons locker located to the rear starboard of the hold, with a ladder leading up to the upper deck in the forward starboard area.
The upper deck is divided into three parts: flight deck, maintanence, and crew area.
The flight deck is the cramped cockpit of the gunship, and contains six seats; for the pilot, co-pilot, and four gunners. In an emergencey, the ship is capable of being flown by a single person, with the ship's limited computer AI taking over the roles of the gunners.
Just to the rear of the flight deck, seperated by a metal hatch, is the maintanence area. This contains miscelaneous equipment in easy to reach areas, allowing for quick repairs to damaged systems. Various tools and equipment can also be found here, as well as the ladder that leads down to the lower deck.
To the very rear of the ship, just above the reactor and forward of the engines, is the crew area. This is to the rear of the maintanence area, seperated from it by a metal hatch. This is only used when the gunship is undertaking missions that leave it cut off from a mothership or base for large periods of time (days or weeks). The small area contains two bunk-beds, a small table, and a cabinet for storing rations.

Jordanis · Post by **Jordanis** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:13 pm

Okay, here's a visual aid. Each of those boxes is a bounding box of the dimensions of the craft in question. They are just a few meters in front of the side of the ship, so it's not a perspective trick or anything.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:16 pm

I'm surprised at how long most of these ships are. I had expected my gunship/troopship hybrid to be the largest ship there at 26m long, but Talora's ship is just slightly shorter, and Blackstar's ship easily dwarfs mine.

Jordanis · Post by **Jordanis** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:18 pm

Yes, well the larger three are all in the size class of the Millennium Falcon, so maybe you guys would be better off running your own smuggling operations?

Jabber Swarky · Post by **Jabber Swarky** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:21 pm

Jordanis wrote:Oh god, all your auxiliary craft are huge! You know those cargo bays are only 30 meters long apiece...

Yeah, what if we want to sneak into somewhere without burning up the atmosphere... a little craft, about the size of my old starship The Heart of Glass could accomidate about 3 people comfrotably, maybe 6 if you didnt mind being smooshed up, and had enough cargo space to squeeze something the size of a Mini Cooper into it. Admittedly, it had no weaponry other than axillary lasers.. but the idea is that you dont get noticed in the first place.

Anyway, Blackie's main ship would be running on a Matter/Antimatter drive, yes-yes? Or would be investigating something like a Casaba Cannon or a Farnsworth Engine?

And... WILL we be using replicators for supplies, or the real deal? =P

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:35 pm

Yes, well the larger three are all in the size class of the Millennium Falcon, so maybe you guys would be better off running your own smuggling operations?

Well, the backstory for my character kind of requires a fair sized ship to explain how he even ended up in the Alpha Quadrant at all, as he's originaly from a good distance away.

Anyway, Blackie's main ship would be running on a Matter/Antimatter drive, yes-yes? Or would be investigating something like a Casaba Cannon or a Farnsworth Engine?

I think M/AM drives would be standard, given who built it. Though maybe not, it's hir ship and shi can design it as shi pleases.

And... WILL we be using replicators for supplies, or the real deal? =P

Well, I'm sure we'll have access to replicators, but damned if I'm eating anything out of them.

Jordanis · Post by **Jordanis** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:46 pm

Well, if we double each dimension you could handle all those small craft plus the cargo handlers that would be native to the ship.

Here's a sketch. Red box is Rochey's like before.

That main hull is 282m long, and with nacelles, I expect ~400m total length.

Underneath are four of the full cargo modules of the small design.