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Tsukiyumi wrote:
IanKennedy wrote:So you are saying that a cops life is more important than yours, and you seem to be happy with that. Ones job, or lack there of, should not define your worth as a human being. The crime of deliberately killing you should be just the same as killing a cop. You are no less of a human being.
I disagree with that particular part; I do, however, believe that killing a child would be a more grievous offense, and deserves a harsher punishment.
Nobody is able to defend themselves from a bullet over a distance. Does that make it more grievous?
Captain Seafort wrote:And what exactly would make your murder a less serious offence than that of a policeman or child?
Like I said, I don't agree about the police; the child is different. I can potentially defend myself - the child can't.

As an example, if someone shot the Queen, or Prince William, would they be treated the same, and charged with the same thing as someone who shot "Random schmoe A"? I know over here, shooting the President would be considered a capital offense.
No it would be exactly the same. There is no crime of any kind left in the UK which results in capital punishment. That includes regicide as well as Arson in the Queens dockyards.
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Sinn Fein === IRA

There's no difference. Gerry Adams was the leader of the IRA at one point.
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To expand on that a bit more, Sinn Fein is the IRA's political wing. They don't admit it. At least not recently. But it's well known.

Really, the only thing I agree with them on is their stance on the Lisbon Treaty.
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Ok, so the guy's sentenced to life in prison. That would sort of indicate they were willing to let him die in prison. So what's it matter how he dies? He's dying of cancer? Bummer, but let his ass die in prison instead of going home to a hero's welcome.
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Tyyr wrote:Ok, so the guy's sentenced to life in prison. That would sort of indicate they were willing to let him die in prison.
It indicates nothing of the sort - most life sentences are about 10 - 15 years, IIRC, with the offender being on license for the rest of their life.
So what's it matter how he dies? He's dying of cancer? Bummer, but let his ass die in prison instead of going home to a hero's welcome.
Since it doesn't matter how he dies, why not let him out, especially as the whole matter will be academic in a few weeks?
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Captain Seafort wrote:It indicates nothing of the sort - most life sentences are about 10 - 15 years, IIRC, with the offender being on license for the rest of their life.
And he was told he'd have to serve at least 27 years back dated to 1999. In any other circumstance he would have been in jail until 2026 at the minimum when he would have been available for parole.
Since it doesn't matter how he dies, why not let him out, especially as the whole matter will be academic in a few weeks?
Because how he dies and where he dies are two different issues. Better he die alone in his cell than surrounded by an adoring country making his last moments comfortable.
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I think it should be pointed out that his countrymen support him because they think he was wrongly convicted. Not because they're happy about the murder of a couple hundred people.
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Rochey wrote:I think it should be pointed out that his countrymen support him because they think he was wrongly convicted. Not because they're happy about the murder of a couple hundred people.
I mentioned that a few pages ago as well. There were people in the crowd flying Scottish flags as well as Libyan ones.
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He adamently protested his innocence during the case, and a lot of the evidence was circumstantial IIRC.
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Reliant121 wrote:He adamently protested his innocence during the case, and a lot of the evidence was circumstantial IIRC.
Yeah, I actually think he was innocent, but that's just me.
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I dont know. I haven't got enough knowledge about it in the first place really.
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