TNG Continuity ripped to shrerds!

Azrael · Post by **Azrael** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:38 am

there's no saying that it wasn't recovered later.. o_o

and while he liked it, maybe it wasn't his most prized posession..

I mean o_O come on lol

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:46 am

haha i loved the priceless artifact.

Maybe Picard decided archeology wasn't really that interesting after all...

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:38 pm

I agree with Azreal on this.

Tiberius · Post by **Tiberius** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:39 am

Captain Seafort wrote:The point about the Borg being able to withstand 78% damage was either a bog-up by the writers, or Shelby's analysis was wrong - the FC cube suffered a lot less than that before it blew up.

The part you saw was undamaged. However, the insides of the Cube coulda been just molten metal.

And if they blew up one of the power generators, it wouldn't need 80% to be damaged. After all, Voyager had a hell of a lot of damage in year of Hell, but that amount of damage to the warp core would be more than enough to destroy the entire ship.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:10 am

And if they blew up one of the power generators, it wouldn't need 80% to be damaged.

Agreed. It must have been something vital, IMO.

Azrael · Post by **Azrael** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:19 am

Which is why picard took command, and had them focus fire on that point.. lol

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:41 am

Hence, you wouldn't need to destroy 78% of the ship, hence Shelby was wrong - the Borg are just as vulnerable to the single-point-of-failure sydrome as Starfleet. Dark Frontier demonstrated this even better - minor damage to part of a scout and the whle ship blew up.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:53 am

Right. Even the Borg have key systems; they're probably disguised as minor systems, but if you know where to strike, you can cripple or destroy them. Sort of like hitting an ammo magazine on a modern warship.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:21 am

In which case the extensive redundancy of Borg ships would be a weakness - while modern warships can centralise their magazines and propulsion, and so protect them better, the Borg can't. Given the powder-keg nature of Trek power generation, that isn't a good idea - they're simply making it easier for their opponents to score a fatal hit.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:22 pm

Wow, you guys really found a good point here!

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:15 pm

Perhaps that's why the Transphasic torpedoes took out one cube with two hits, and another with only one hit. Maybe they're designed to exploit the Borg tendency to scatter numerous vital systems all over the place (they might just spread damage over a larger area, hoping to hit one of these 'don't press this button' systems).

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:27 am

That's quite possible. Particularly once you take into acount the fact that they seemed to take different numbers of torps to take down.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:16 pm

Perhaps their targeting systems were designed to home in on Borg power generator signatures, in a similar way to how Spock and McCoy's modified torpedo homed in on the plasma wake of Chang's BoP.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:50 pm

I was thinking that same thing, though obviously the yield is significantly higher than a quantum torpedo.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:56 pm

Tsukiyumi wrote:I was thinking that same thing, though obviously the yield is significantly higher than a quantum torpedo.

Why? Modern PGMs are usuall only one or two tons, but they can punch holes in bunkers that in WW2 would need a Tallboy or Grand Slam to take out. It's a matter of hitting the target in the right place.