This is fucked up. You'd think there would other programs they could cut back on, kind of hard to fathom how taking the only money these people have is going to help do anything but put them on the street.California's fiscal future lurched yet another step toward oblivion on Friday as state Controller John Chiang announced he could no longer make payments for services to disabled and blind people who need the money to pay for rent and food.
Chiang said payments would most likely have to be stopped by Feb. 1.
"Delaying these payments will hurt real families," Chiang said.
About one million people would be affected by the non-payments, Chiang said.
"People are going to be hungry at my house," said Shirley Magers, who receives a $900 monthly payment related to her disabilities. "(This is) not to mention the utilities. Personally I can't pay all the utilities right now."
Education will be spared from the delayed payments, but California's money meltdown has been long in the making.
"The last day the state had a positive cash balance was July 12, 2007 -- a year and a half ago," Chiang said.
Since that time, California has been using internal borrowing to pay the bills. Barring a quick deal at the capitol, taxpayers will likely receive IOUs instead of tax refunds this spring.
Lawmakers have about two weeks to strike a deal with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger or the cash crisis will expand to even more people.
Thousands of construction projects around the state are shutting down because state bond money has dried up.
"If it continues for a number of months into next year, it could be 200,000 jobs lost," said State Treasurer Bill Lockyer.
The board that oversees those projects voted to free up funding on Friday while top legislative leaders joined Schwarzenegger for another round of budget talks.
Schwarzenegger said he may host another meeting of top legislative leaders on Saturday.
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I've stated many times that I dislike the majority of welfare but this is just retarded.
A little over a weeks warning to prepare for this. These people are still going to need help, your just shifting the burden from the state to charities who will have to pick up the slack. That in the long run is just as bad for the economy if not worse because it puts strain on individuals and families.
And as Kendall said, there must be SOMETHING else that can be cut.
A little over a weeks warning to prepare for this. These people are still going to need help, your just shifting the burden from the state to charities who will have to pick up the slack. That in the long run is just as bad for the economy if not worse because it puts strain on individuals and families.
And as Kendall said, there must be SOMETHING else that can be cut.
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Wow, this is utterly fucking stupid. Who the fuck thought that screwing over and already seriously disadvantaged group would be a good idea? Surely there's better places to take money from than fucking disabled people. Hey, here's an idea, why not ramp up the taxes for the rich fucks who ran the country into the ground, instead of letting them slip through legal loopholes?
The government over here tried something similar when they announced the 2009 budget. They thought that cutting medical benefits for OAPs would be a great way to save money. They very quickly dropped that idea after mass protests took place.
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I don't think they can. I'm not entirely sure of this point, but I think one of the propositions tagged onto a ballot paper (I'm not sure when) involved limitations on taxation, passed, and so they're constitutionally limited as to what they can do to solve the financial mess they're in (and have been for the last year or so). Then again, I know very little about Californian politics, so I might be wrong on that point.Rochey wrote:Wow, this is utterly f***ing stupid. Who the f**k thought that screwing over and already seriously disadvantaged group would be a good idea? Surely there's better places to take money from than f***ing disabled people. Hey, here's an idea, why not ramp up the taxes for the rich fucks who ran the country into the ground, instead of letting them slip through legal loopholes?
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Okay, that's just stupid. Whose bright idea was it to pass something like that?
Is there any chance of getting rid of it?
Is there any chance of getting rid of it?
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The electorate of California. As good an argument for a benevolent dictatorship as I've ever seen.Rochey wrote:Okay, that's just stupid. Whose bright idea was it to pass something like that?
No idea. As I said, my knowledge of Californian politics is limited at best.Is there any chance of getting rid of it?
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Fucking bullshit right here. They need that money. Good effing God! Soak those Hollywood fatcats who spend a quarter million on fucking purses, for Kahn's sake!
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Yeah, that was Proposition 13, from 1978, which put a cap on property taxes and made it more difficult to increase other taxes.Captain Seafort wrote:I don't think they can. I'm not entirely sure of this point, but I think one of the propositions tagged onto a ballot paper (I'm not sure when) involved limitations on taxation, passed, and so they're constitutionally limited as to what they can do to solve the financial mess they're in (and have been for the last year or so). Then again, I know very little about Californian politics, so I might be wrong on that point.
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It gets even better. While Cali "has" to cut disability to make ends meet, some folks are getting six figure salaries. Even while state employees have to take a cut!
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Reporting from Sacramento -- As Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger orders steep salary cuts for most of the state workforce, some Sacramento players are doing much better by him.
The governor has added state legislators and former political aides to the state payroll, with six-figure salaries. Their positions: plum posts on the same state boards and commissions that the governor crusaded to abolish a few years ago, calling them a waste of taxpayer money.
Two GOP lawmakers who recently left office and have limited expertise in thorny employment issues have received jobs at the state Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board. The panel met 12 times last year, and members are paid $128,109.
"It's a soft landing spot for ex-elected officials who can make a good living while showing up 12 times a year," said Joel Fox, an antitax advocate who worked on the governor's aborted plan to shut down the boards. "The positions should be eliminated."
Seats on state boards have long been awarded to lawmakers loyal to governors and legislative leaders.
But Schwarzenegger made the most recent appointments just days after ordering 238,000 state workers to be furloughed two days a month or take an equivalent pay cut of about 9%. He also requested that the state payroll be reduced an additional 10%, including layoffs if necessary.
"People were very disgusted and upset about it," said Sandie Luke, president of a Northern California council for the Service Employees International Union, Local 1000. The local represents 95,000 white-collar workers.
She faulted the governor and his staff, saying: "It makes you wonder what their priorities are."
Administration spokeswoman Rachel Cameron said lawmakers balked at abolishing the boards and folding their operations into other agencies, so the governor is left with no choice but to fill vacant seats. And she said the handling of unemployment appeals is more crucial than ever because of the sour economy.
"The governor still has an obligation to continue to appoint the best qualified people to carry out this function," she said.
The two posts went to Bonnie Garcia of Cathedral City and George Plescia of La Jolla. Schwarzenegger's office announced the appointments on New Year's Eve.
A few weeks earlier Schwarzenegger had appointed state Sen. Carole Migden (D-San Francisco) to a $132,000 seat on a board that meets once a month to oversee trash disposal in the state. Migden lost her reelection bid and had to leave the Legislature at the end of November.
The governor made the appointment even though he has twice recommended eliminating the trash board, most recently in his budget proposal for the next fiscal year, now pending before the Legislature. Still, his former scheduling director chairs the board, and two other former Democratic lawmakers were added to its payroll by legislative leaders late last year.
Another panel, the state Personnel Board, includes onetime Schwarzenegger aides appointed earlier: Patricia Clarey, his former chief of staff, and Richard Costigan, former deputy chief of staff.
The governor believes Garcia and Plescia are appropriate to their new positions, Cameron said. "They are both great public servants with a desire to continue serving the people of California in this new role," she said.
Garcia once served as vice chairwoman of the Assembly Committee on Jobs and Economic Development, and she noted she has a college degree in workforce development.
Plescia, who did not return calls for comment, does not list in the resume he submitted to the governor's office any previous work involving unemployment insurance or employment issues.
Migden was appointed to the waste board, Cameron said, on the recommendation of Senate leader Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento), "because she has held several elected positions throughout local and state government for nearly 20 years and her background will serve well in this new role."
And Migden defended her own qualifications. "Throughout my career in public service, I've looked for ways to solve problems," she said.
In 2005, as part of his California Performance Review process, Schwarzenegger proposed eliminating 88 state boards and commissions, including those to which he has now appointed Garcia, Plescia and Migden.
"No one paid by the state should make $100,000 a year for only meeting twice a month," he told legislators then.
But in the face of widespread opposition from legislators and special interests, he dropped the idea.
"I didn't want to stop all the other things I wanted to get done," he explained later.
Sen. Jeff Denham (R-Atwater) introduced legislation recently that would abolish the waste board, calling it "a blatant rip-off of taxpayer dollars to the tune of $2 million a year," a reference to the board's cost.
"This type of wasteful spending can no longer be tolerated in the face of massive and ever-increasing budget deficits," Denham said.
Democrats, too, are giving the California Performance Review Report a second look in a new Assembly committee created to find waste and ways to be more efficient.
Meanwhile, the $132,000 in annual salary that Migden will collect would be enough to cover 1,109 additional children in the state's Healthy Families program, which provides medical, dental and vision coverage to poor children and faces possible cutbacks because of the fiscal crisis. Her pay would also cover a cost-of-living increase for 523 families receiving state welfare grants.
But Cameron noted that Migden and the other board appointees are subject to the same 10% salary cuts as mostother state employees. Plescia and Garcia's pay could eventually be cut to $115,298, while Migden's could drop to $118,000.
Nancy Swindell, president of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees 2620, which represents pharmacists, dietitians, psychologists and social workers employed by the state, said that is small comfort to the average state employee
When Schwarzenegger "gives an outlandish salary to Bonnie Garcia and then cuts the salary for a state worker making just above minimum wage, where is the impact?" Swindell said. "It sends the message that the governor supports the elite and has no sympathy or empathy for the working person."
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Well there's a surprise. ![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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Yay, America. ![Confused :?](./images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
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"Reverse Robin Hood". I think that sums it up quite well, Enterprise.
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