Abortion Discussion

[IanKennedy]

I was responding to the view that the mothers life was more important that that of her wishes. It's that that I have something of a problem with.

Sorry, but I do believe that. So does the legislation of many areas - witness the illegality of suicide.

Yes, I know, otherwise why would I respond to it. I've no problem with you believing it I do have a problem with you trying to enforce it as a law. The point is what right do you have to tell her what to do, she's not hurting anyone else, in fact in my example quite the opposite.

As for suicide being illegal, that's the most stupid thing I've ever heard in my life. After all what are you going to do, lock the corpse up in jail, perhaps you could give them the death penalty. Besides it's not illegal in the UK and hasn't been since 1961, it is illegal to 'aid or abet' suicide. That makes sense as you are harming someone else or at least helping to.

[Mikey]

as you are harming someone else or at least helping to.

As would an obstetrician who allowed a woman to carry a pregnancy which would prove fatal to the mother.

As what right I have, I don't - that's why I distinguished between my personal opinion and my desire to legislate. But the right I would claim is the fact that the mother is an extant life, which takes precednec over a potential life.

[IanKennedy]

as you are harming someone else or at least helping to.

As would an obstetrician who allowed a woman to carry a pregnancy which would prove fatal to the mother.

Not really, as he's not actively causing her death. It's similar to giving pain meds to terminally ill patients, doctors are allowed to give so much that it will kill the patient if that is what is required to get rid of the pain.

As what right I have, I don't - that's why I distinguished between my personal opinion and my desire to legislate. But the right I would claim is the fact that the mother is an extant life, which takes precednec over a potential life.

As I've said previously I have no problem with you having an oppinion in any way. It's the thought that you think you have a right to do something, even though you don't want to use it, that I have a problem with. I would defend her right to put the life of her child over her own, even the potential life as it currently is. Parents do it all the time, I don't see how this is any different.

[Lt. Staplic]

I voted yes in all circumstances for one reason.

I am a man, and as a man, I have absolutly no place and no right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body.

Personally, I wouldn't ever support an abortion, but I won't condemn it either.

[Capt. Jethro]

I voted yes in all circumstances for one reason.

I am a man, and as a man, I have absolutly no place and no right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body.

Personally, I wouldn't ever support an abortion, but I won't condemn it either.

Good point, and to be honest that was my outlook while in college but I would like to add this. As a man, a man must take responsibility for his actions.

[Lt. Staplic]

which is why it should be a joint decision between the two of them, but to pass legislation on it...I revert back to the fact I have no right to do so as a man.

[Capt. Jethro]

which is why it should be a joint decision between the two of them, but to pass legislation on it...I revert back to the fact I have no right to do so as a man.

Yes it should be a joint decision. After all it takes two to tango!

But there is always a cause and effect. Accidents do happen, I am an example of this, and people need to be responsible for their actions. More folks should think about that in whatever they do.

[Tsukiyumi]

It certainly isn't always a joint decision...

Of course, as I said earlier, in the end, it really comes down to the woman's choice.

[Sionnach Glic]

There's no real way that legislating it so it must be a joint decision would work.

[Lt. Staplic]

no, for legislation it should be completely legal.

I was just commenting that I personally wouldn't support an abortion, and that any/all abortions should be discussed between the couple. We can't force that but it should be the way it happenns.